Experience at Union Square "Peace Rally" - "Support Lebanon/Palestine/UN"
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Yesterday on my way out of the city I drove by Union Square (downtown Manhattan/NY...) It was nice there were lots of people just hanging out.
On one corner of the square there was a "Pro-Lebanon/Pro-Palestine/Pro-UN" rally with speakers and pamphlets etc... a mixed crowd but mainly but mainly left wing hippies and Americans with lots of time on their hands. About 50-100 people checking it out at that area.
By the time I parked and walked over the rally was over and the cops removed the barricades etc.. but there was still people around passing out materials sponsored by the "Int'l Answer Coalition"
The main pamphlet spoke about how Israel (of course only) murdered UN workers. And support "Palestine and Lebanon" and anti US and Israeli "Colonialist" Message..
I walked around and there was a few Israeli supporters discussing what had happened yesterday with 1 of the guys passing out papers. Then I walked up to the main area and noticed 3 people with signs and pamphlets. I started reading their signs from a distance just minding my own business.
One was a waspy looking middle aged woman wearing a Dennis Kucinich for President poster - an older hippy guy -and- a what I thought was an Hispanic middle aged guy. The lady then asked me if I wanted to take one, and I said no thanks.
The woman then said to me - "Those Israeli laser guided bombs are really accurate, they're really good at killing innocent (UN) people"
I said - "You know Hezbollah murdered 2 UN observers a week or so ago and noone said much about it"......
Then the Arabic or Hispanic guy got loud and upset and said - "You are a liar and a criminal and a thief. People fight and die for you!"
I said - "What are you talking abou and don't insult me you don't even know me."
He began rambling on automatically about Jews.. and said - "You are a criminal and a thief you are a Jew, you should be locked up, etc.. etc...!"
then made more ranting about Jews and that people fight and die for me, etc..
I said - "Who said anything about me being Jewish, do you have a problem with Jewish people? .... No wonder nobody listens to you guys because you're lunatics."
The lady then actually said - "OH right you're Italian Catholic, I know"
So I said - "Actually I'm Italian and Jewish. Do you have a problem with that?"
And then the guy said - "Oh! so you're half Jewish!"
The guy I believe was Arabic not Hispanic for what it's worth. It's a common thing in the Middle East to call anyone a "criminal and thief", ie... "You are a criminal and a thief" - Baghdad Bob
If you don't think there is blatant anti-semitism in the so-called "Peace Movements" think again they are rife with it. This small rally as well as the one they were promoting on August 24th in Manhattan was sponsored by the International Answer Coalition.
Imagine you said to an Arab person - "Those Muslims they really lust for murder and martyrdom huh?"
And they said politely back - "The Palestinians have suffered a lot though"
And then you said - "You are an Arab and a Muslim aren't you - you are a terrorist, murderer and criminal, you should be locked up"
CAN YOU IMAGINE? And the woman then made the additional anti-semitic comment meaning I must be a Joooo!
I should have gotten more in their face and given it back to them but I didn't. There were a few people there debating with 1 guy who was not violent and hateful and actually reasonable but he was the exception.
The amazing thing is not just the nastiness but the arrogance and self righteousness........ they're not there to talk to people politely and make their point and if you have the "nerve" to discuss or make a counter point to anything they say the hate and smite comes pouring out... and they're allowed to hate and smite anyone they think they are because anyone who doesn't agree with everything they say is "obviously" the "bad guy"
The cops that were there were really friendly and basically said they can't understand how people have any time to "protest".... ie.., paraphrasing -
- "Where do they get all their time from, after work, family etc.. we don't have anytime to waste on anything like making signs etc.."
They pretty much couldn't stand the "Peacenicks"
Maybe memories of the "Anti-war/Peace rallies" a few years back where the "peacenicks" smashed in store windows and punched and kicked cops... very "peaceful"
UPDATE: Here are links to Hezbollah attacks on UNIFIL referred to in the conversation which merited the emailer being called a "Liar/criminal/thief/Joooo/" etc..
Hezbollah Attacked UN Workers Twice Last Week - Prior to the Fatal Israeli Mortar Fire that hit a UNIFIL Post
UN Observer fired on by Hezbollah Life Saved by Israelis